If I had the time…

I would put my M.A. degree to truly understand what in the world is going on with Obama’s Making Homes Affordable Plan and the bailout money given to loan companies in the Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan. I did some light Google research trying to find out if Aurora Loan Services was receiving bailout money.  I found this website call ProPublica: Journalism in the Public Interest that 459.6million dollars was allocated for Aurora Loan Services specifically for the Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan.* That’s interesting since they told us that they are not going to do the Obama plan for loans like ours… so it leads me to a few very important questions that I would love to learn the answers to:

1) What is required of loan companies that are receiving bailout money from the Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan?
2) What is Aurora Loan Services doing with their bailout money?  Which homeowners are they modifying for?
3) Who in the world is actually getting reasonable modifications? Seriously?! Billions of dollars could have bought all these homes… but I have not hear of anyone who has actually gotten a loan modification under Obama’s Making Homes Affordable Plan. I have heard of a lot of people foreclosing though.  Seriously, everyone is doing it.

Resources for the foreclosing homeowner…

In deciding to go into default on our home mortgage, we looked for community and non-profit services and counseling so that we can move forward clearly understanding what the consequences are of our actions, the legal ramifications and the options we have.  I went to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) website and found resources for foreclosure.  They also have a search engine for foreclosure avoidance counselors.  I emailed all the counselors in Oakland. 

ACORN Housing replied immediately and instructed me to fill out an application for help online.  While the application asks for many details about our budget and mortgage, it was very easy to fill out since we had collected all this information for our loan modification application.  They were very helpful and kind on the phone, which was very different from what we had been experiencing with our loan company.  We are still in the process of being matched with a counselor, but I will continue to write about this process.

Loan Modification from Aurora Loan Services? You’ve got to be kidding!

Aurora Loan Services must want us to foreclose.  Thats the only thing that I could think of when I wrote down the figures that they gave me when offering us a loan modification.  We submitted paperwork to them in early March asking for relief  from our extremely high mortgage payment.  We were paying $3462 a month in mortgage, taxes and insurance for a home we purchased for $465,000.  We were given an interest only loan originally at a rate of 7.125%.   

With the changes in our family, and the bills that pop up from time to time we were struggling to make the payments and have something left over at the end of the month.  I mean we never missed a payment, and made sure to work with them as much as we could when submitting documents to them.  So we saw that tough times were gonna come and hoped that they would have the foresight to see that its better to lower our interest rate substantially and guarantee payments on the original $465K than to have us foreclose and sell the house at a much smaller amount, which is what the house is valued at now.  So we wait, and wait.  Then we get frustrated when we get runaround answers and unclear statements on when we’ll have an answer as to our modification request.

Then today comes and to my amazement they say they are going to give us a modification.   Woo Hooo!!!! 

Until they tell me the figures!  They are lowering our payment of $3462 to a whopping $3352, for a grand total savings of $110 a month.  To put that into perspective, they are saving us a grand total of 3% off our normal payment.  Wow, 3%.   I mean thats amazing!  So now instead of paying over 60% of our income for mortgage, it drops down to 57%.  Thanks, a bunch.   If you look at the reduction in terms of simply principal and interest payment, it goes from $2747/month to $2705/month.  For a huge savings of $42.  I mean with $42 a month, I might be able to buy a new TV.  Woo Hoo!!!  Or to put it another way, they reduced it 1.5%   YAY.  Savings!    

What a damn joke!  Well thanks for nothing Aurora Loan Services.  You really went out on a limb to help us. 

But wait, this really does not do justice to the horrible customer service and misinformation that Aurora Loan Services put us through.  I mean, when your company has the chance to lie to someone and tell them that there a possibility to do some plan like the presidents, and all it takes is a BPO, or a Brokers Price Opinion, then of course, we are going to say go for it.  I mean if it means improving our chances of getting a good deal, like the person on the phone said ” We’ve been doing 2% interest for the life of the loan”, then you say yes, do the BPO.  But then to have them tell me the next week, that no, that program does not count for us, and this lender is not doing it.  Oh, but we are charging you $95 for the BPO, even though we never told you that either.  Thats wonderful.  Way to keep your clients happy! (Not to mention the 100 days it took them to respond to our application as mentioned in a previous post.)

Oh, and by the way, Aurora Loan Services is not doing the Obama loan modification plan for anyone other than their Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac clients. Do not bother and waste time/money as we did. In their employee’s words, “THIS LENDER is not participating in the President’s plan.”   I asked, “So you mean you guys, like Aurora.” And she said, “THIS LENDER is not.”  I love it that employees speak about their own company as if it has nothing to do with them. That’s how everything about this housing crash is going down. It’s just companies, right?! No actual person is being held responsible, but I know there are people out there that could be found responsible if someone really looked.  And, of course,  nobody is responsible or accountable to the homeowners.  If I ever have to talk to anyone from their company about our pending foreclosure I’m going to say, “The homeowners don’t intend on paying their mortgage ever again.  The homeowners don’t ever want to waste another cent on your unethical company.”

Persistence. Persistence. Persistence.

We are trying to be hopeful: The loan company will work with us.  They will renegotiate our loan terms and our monthly mortgage payment will be manageable. We will be able to breathe a little financially.

It’s been over 80 days since we sent our 2nd loan modification application.  The first one was rejected, but now with Obama’s new Making Home Affordable Plan we think we qualify for some assistance.  What has happened since then:

A few days before the 60 deadline, we call and they tell us to call after 60 days because that’s the maximum number of days needed for them to review our application.

A few days after the 60 day deadline, we call and they are not sure why we haven’t gotten a response from the underwriter.  They said they will submit a request for information and that the underwriter is given a week to respond. 

We call back at the end of the next week (Friday) and it’s been over 7 days.  They tell us that they will need until Tuesday (after a holiday weekend) and that someone will definitely call us.

Tuesday passes and we call back the Friday after.  They said that on Wednesday they submitted a request for the underwiter and they need 7 days to respond. I try to tell them that it’s already been more than 7 days and we haven’t heard a thing.  The representative decides it’s time to go over our application even though she’s not an underwriter or has any power to do anything.  She said she is spot checking and we find spots: They have combined some information about our stated income from our 1st application with our 2nd application which makes it look like our family should have $1500-$1600 disposable income each month and would likely not qualify.  I tell her we will call back to verify all the information.

After the weekend, we call back and give the correct numbers again.  They ask us to resubmit parts of our application to update our records.  So they are NOT going to review our previous application and give us a response, we need to send in more information.   

We re-submit our paperwork a day later and do a follow-up phone call.  They tell us they need 10 more days in one department and 2 weeks in another department before getting us any response.

Waiting. Waiting. Waiting.  Is this getting ridiculous?

If you let your fingers do the walking…

it doesn’t mean your loan company will do the talking (or at least tell you anything you want to hear).

Our application was sent in within the 1st week that Obama’s Making Homes Affordable Plan was announced and we are still waiting for an answer. It’s been over 60 days.  We’ve called several times: at 1 month, 6 weeks, this Monday and today (Friday).   We’ve gotten some updates: “We’re still creating our guidelines for refinancing,” “we have 60 days to give you an answer,” “it’s over 60 days so call us on Friday,” and today’s answer was, “It is still under review, an underwriter should call you by next Tuesday.”

The clock is ticking for many Americans.  We just want to know if we should be planting our summer garden or packing up boxes. A recent New York Times article published last week that so far only 55,000 homeowners have been extended loan modification offers in the past two months. It’s no surprise that change is moving so slow as loan companies begin to reevaluate their “profit-first, people-second” policies and consider that they could actually make more money modifying loans then foreclosing on homeowners.  And now companies are being inundated by applications and have no structure to review requests for help.  We heard a recent This American Life podcast about this.

We haven’t posted anything in awhile, but we will continue to keep you updated and put up new resources and articles as we come across them.

Rocking in the Same Boat

Here is a story that hits pretty close to home. Its about folks who have a mortgage, make their payments, but are struggling to keep up.

Bank opens “Homeownership Centers” to help

Now the part of this that I keep going over is where we will find that point where banks and mortgage lenders actually want to work with you to save your house.  Are they really making more money by foreclosing and writing off the loss.  How could they not make more by working with us to change our rates and making it affordable enough that we could both eat and pay our mortgage and possibly save some money for other stuff, like our child’s college fund.  I mean if they work with us, they will be receiving payments from us for the next 30 years.  Thats a pretty good rate of return vs. a foreclosure.

When will we hit bottom?

I keep seeing on the web, people speculating as to when the bottom will hit. When will we be past this bad time? For us, looking at $100K in possibly lost home value, that time can not come soon enough. We definitely do not want to be swimming, so I root for all the stimulus stuff to happen and get our systems back on track. BUT

Do I really want the US to go back to a system that allowed itself to get so swindled? Are there really going to be new rules and regulations that might stop this from occurring?  I’m not really comfortable with these huge corporate instituations getting billions of dollars of support for screwing up.  If they would have done their jobs correctly, we would not be in this mess.   What is the next area of commerce that falls prey to swindlers and scammers. I mean if everyone wants to make money, will they put the blinders back on so that the good times can come back?

And if the housing market is really depressed for the long-term, will this mean that housing prices are not going to rebound for decades? Will we be stuck paying into a home that we’ll never see a profit on?

Here is the AP’s article on this outlook

Not necessarily the cheery outlook you were hoping for?  Me neither, but then again I try to look at our situation on different levels.  On the happy level, I am glad that we still have our place, we are not in foreclosure, we’ve been able to make all our payments.  I still have my job, we are healthy and our baby is beautiful.  We are doing ok, on that level.  Other levels of outlook, we are not so cheery.  But that is for another post.

The Hardship Letter

It seems pretty standard to require homeowners requesting refinancing or loan modification to write a hardship letter. Don’t let a little letter get in your way of requesting a more reasonable/affordable loan.

Here are a few resources to write your letter:

Hardship Letter, Questions to Answer – From the Unity Council

Sample Hardship Letter and Tips – I am Facing Foreclosure blog

This a template based on OUR Hardship Letter
– but know that we have NOT yet been approved for a loan modification! So the success rate is unproven.

[Your Loan Company]
[Their Address/Fax #]

To Whom It May Concern:

We write to apply for the opportunity to renegotiate the terms of our mortgage and would like to be considered under the government’s new “Making Home Affordable” plan. We bought our home at [address of your home] on [date of purchase]. At the time we were a newly married couple with two stable, full-time jobs [change this sentence according to your situation at time of purchase]. We secured a loan for [amount of loan]. In hindsight, we know that we were given a loan and interest rate that was much too high for us.

Since then, [two] major life events have changed our ability to afford our mortgage: [add life changing events here].

These are a few facts to illustrate the severity of our financial situation.
• In 2008 our debt increased from ___ to ___.
• Our income for 2007 was ____ in comparison to our income in 2008 which was ____.
• About ___ % of our gross monthly income goes to pay our mortgage and related costs.
• Our net worth as a couple is _____ .

At times we feel that the best financial option we have is to sell our home. In this kind of market, we know that this would be impossible. Our home, according to Zillow.com, is worth about [amount listed on Zillow]. Our home has lost about [percent]% of its value.

We have tried our best to continue mortgage payments and be faithful to our financial agreement, but we cannot do this much longer. We are accruing more debt each month [and/or other troubles you may have]. We do not want to foreclose and are asking [your loan company] for an opportunity to renegotiate the terms of our mortgage or another reprieve.

Please consider our request. We thank you for your time and hope that we can keep our family’s first home.

Sincerely,

[Your names and signature here]

Making Home Affordable: Can the government’s plan help you?

The government released some details of their plan to reduce foreclosures on the website through refinancing & loan modification: http://financialstability.gov/

Could it help us? Possibly. According to the wesite’s Q & A worksheet, we qualify! So when we resubmit our paperwork we’re going to ask to be considered for the government’s Making Home Affordable. Will our loan company care? We’ll have to see.

News about Making Home Affordable:
US Sets Big Incentives to Head Off Foreclosures” – New York Times (3/4/2009)
New York Times Chart on Government’s 2 Options
Details of plan to rescue housing” – SFgate (3/5/2009)

Round 1 – The Application: Our Family vs. Our Loan Company

Last week, we submitted our application to renegotiate our loan. The application included: a hardship letter, financial statements, pay stubs, and previous tax returns. Surprisingly, 3 days later we got a response.

It was a form letter. Here is an excerpt:

“[The Loan Company] has carefully reviewed your loan for home retention options. [The Loan Company] has determined that we are unable to continue pursuit of said options. A home retention workout on your loan has been denied for the following reason(s): Financially unable to afford monthly payments”

Hmmm… We are unable to afford monthly payments, yet we have not missed a mortgage payment or have made a late payment for that matter – although things have been really tight. (To read more about “Our Story” look here). And, interestingly aren’t we applying to renegotiate our loan BECAUSE we are unable to afford monthly payments?! Isn’t that the point?!

Mind you, this was before Obama released details of his plan to help troubled homeowners. I wonder if anything will change.

My husband called our mortgage company and they were concerned about or low income and credit card debt. We are going to fiddle with numbers and resend tomorrow…